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		<title>By: Abe Pilkington</title>
		<link>http://www.word-detective.com/2008/10/fire-in-the-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-42136</link>
		<dc:creator>Abe Pilkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 04:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize it&#039;s years later now (after these posts), but prior to reading this the canon idea was the best one i could think of for an origin. Because there was the aforementioned &quot;Hole&quot; in which the fire was placed to set off the canon as well as the need for a warning due to the delay. I also don&#039;t buy the &quot;fire down below&quot; theory, it just doesn&#039;t make sense logically. As a sailor it&#039;s just far too vague a statement to be of any use to  the crew, on a ship a fire anywhere is a main priority and detail is needed and not time consuming enough to necessitate shortening. It&#039;s just as quick and easy to shout &quot;fire in the galley&quot;, or &quot;fire in the crew quarters&quot; as it is to shout &quot;fire down below&quot; which as was already mentioned means anything below the deck. The fact that canons on vessels are far older than American mining i have to believe this is the true origin of this phrase, but i&#039;m neither a historian nor a student of English, so i obviously can&#039;t say for certain. But i&#039;d really like to know for sure.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>recoil...</description>
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		<title>By: Edna Cahill</title>
		<link>http://www.word-detective.com/2008/10/fire-in-the-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3698</link>
		<dc:creator>Edna Cahill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fire in the hole for cannon fire is the explanation I was given.  I think some of the confusion arises from the shanty &#039;Fire down below&#039;, which names all the areas of the ship in turn where fire might occur, and includes fire in the hold (hole)</description>
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		<title>By: Ian Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.word-detective.com/2008/10/fire-in-the-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3557</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I come from a very old line of English sailors and the expression comes from when the touch paper was put to the fire hole in a  ships cannon. The hole in the Cannon ( not the hole where the shot comes out but the firing hole)was filled with gun powder and it took a few seconds before the main charge went off. As a warning to the rest of the gun crew the firing master would shout &quot;fire in the hole&quot; . The old cannons had a feirce riccochet and it was a warning for everyone to get away from the cannon.</description>
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		<title>By: Ray Albrektson</title>
		<link>http://www.word-detective.com/2008/10/fire-in-the-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3026</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Albrektson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gunpowder in warships has never been stored in the hold, but the magazine, and that includes Hornblower&#039;s navy.  The &quot;hold&quot; theory is pure wishful thinking.</description>
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		<title>By: Lorraine Kawecki</title>
		<link>http://www.word-detective.com/2008/10/fire-in-the-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-3012</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorraine Kawecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understood, more specifically, that &quot;fire in the hole&quot; meant sparks in the hold where the gunpowder was stored on the warships...indeed a dangerous situation.  At least, that&#039;s what I understand from the Horatio Hornblower novels.</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Lindsly</title>
		<link>http://www.word-detective.com/2008/10/fire-in-the-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-2346</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lindsly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it (fire in the hole) is actually &quot;fire in the hold&quot; as on a ship.  In the days of wooden ships that was indeed a problem and was shouted as a warning that was possible life threatening.  It has somehow become fire in the hole.</description>
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		<title>By: Massage Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.word-detective.com/2008/10/fire-in-the-hole/comment-page-1/#comment-2296</link>
		<dc:creator>Massage Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the phrase is originated during Industrialisation period by Miners and big construction (like dams) workers when an explosion was imminent for destroying rocks using gunpowder/bombs!!</description>
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